2nd Allied Tactical Air Force- Conclusion
Author’s Note: This post will wrap up 2 ATAF losses on D+0. In April the first day air losses for 4 ATAF will be presented.
Lufttwaffe
Squadron 1, Jagdbombergeschwader 31, Nörvenich Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 16 Tornado IDS
AC Combat Losses: 5
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Dark
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Dark
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Dark
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Dark
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Light
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Light
Squadron 2, Jagdbombergeschwader 31, Nörvenich Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 16 Tornado IDS
AC Combat Losses: 4
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Light
- Tornado IDS OCA AM Light
- Tornado IDS INT PM Dark
- Tornado IDS INT PM Dark
Squadron 1, Jagdbombergeschwader 36, Rheine-Hopsten Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 15 F-4F Phantom II
AC Combat Losses: 6
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA PM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA PM Light
Squadron 2, Jagdbombergeschwader 36, Rheine-Hopsten Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 15 F-4 Phantom II
AC Combat Losses: 4
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA PM Light
Squadron 1, Jagdbombergeschwader 43, Oldenburg Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 18 Alpha Jets
AC Combat Losses: 8
- Alpha Jet CAS AM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS AM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
Squadron 2, Jagdbombergeschwader 43, Oldenburg Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 18 Alpha Jets
AC Combat Losses: 4
- Alpha Jet CAS AM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS AM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
- Alpha Jet CAS PM Light
Squadron 1, Jagdgeschwader 71, Wittmundhafen Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 15 F-4F Phantom II
AC Combat Losses: 5
- F-4F Phantom II DCA AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA PM Light
- F-4F Phantom II UNK PM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA PM Light
Squadron 2, Jagdgeschwader 71, Wittmundhafen Air Base, Federal Republic of Germany
AC Strength 0000 Hours D+0: 15 F-4F Phantom II
AC Combat Losses: 3
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II AD AM Light
- F-4F Phantom II DCA PM Light
Third World War 1987 
Looking at the current situation, the allies are a shadow of our former selves
This will not end well
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Attrition rates are usually highest on the first 2-3 days of an air war. After that, tactics change, modifications made and the rates stabilize, at least for a time. But yeah, this won’t end well for a lot of aircrews and squadrons, sadly
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Bad day to be flying in an Alpha-Jet (or a Harrier). CAS is an inherently risky mission, more so in a complex environment. Still, it can make the difference in the ground.
From what I can gather the Luftwaffe and Heer didn’t have a concept similar to JAAT. From what’s out there the PAH-1 force wanted to operate at standoff from ambush positions. I couldn’t find evidence of a rehearsed doctrine of deliberate FW/RW/Arty cooperation. And the PAH-1 lacked the systems and armor to survive at disadvantage. After all, it was intended to be an interim pending introduction of a purpose built design.
Still better than no CAS and no AHs though.
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Yeah, CAS in a NATO-Pact war would’ve been essential but the losses heavy. At least early on. Later it depends on how the ground war moves.
Sounds accurate from what I know about the Luftwaffe and Heer. They really needed a better attack helicopter but only had the souped-up PAH-1. It would’ve worked for a little while at least
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I’ve been meaning to come on and ask, on the first set of A-200 losses, it says “5” Tornadoes were lost but you have six airframes listed. Did the squadron lose five A-200s, or six ?
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I believe its probably just a typo and will check it out. Thanks for picking that up, Tyler
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