The Future Beyond World War III 1987

All good things must come to an end. While I see this blog going on for some time discussing World War III related subject matter, the alternative 1987 we’ve created and nurtured will wrap up at some point around Labor Day when all is said and done. So, what will come next? Good question. In all honesty, I’m not quite ready to give up the ghost. Creating a hypothetical Third World War from the real world 1980s has proven to be an adventure on so many levels. More so than anything else, WWIII 1987 offered me the freedom to be creative. I was not restricted by guidelines, editing  and formats the way I would’ve been if it was written out in novel form. I know how that side of the house works now. 😊

I am leaning towards starting a new alternative history or speculative fiction before Labor Day if the stars align properly. I have a handful of ideas in mind that I’m mulling over and brainstorming from time to time. No outlines laid out or foundations created, but I’ll admit that a decent amount of research is underway on some of the ideas. I’ve sketched them out a bit below, but keep in mind I’ve committed to none of them at this time. And, as is always the case, I’m open to your thoughts and feedback. As the summer goes on, I’ll discuss this topic every so often and keep you abreast on any decisions I’ve made. Thanks for taking a few moments to read this over. –Mike

Red Dawn-esque War Set In The 1980s– This possibility is one I’ve always wanted to explore. A Soviet/Eastern Bloc invasion of the United States in an alternative 1980s. A scenario similar to what we saw in the movie Red Dawn. But instead of just covering the exploits of a group of teenage partisans, this would be an in-depth look at the entire conflict, as well as the events that led up to it. Years ago, on the website Alternatehistory.com there was a massive thread set around just this type of conflict. It went on for years and a number of very talented writers contributed, as well as some equally talented digital artists. Some readers of this blog were heavily involved in that masterpiece and I hope they speak up after seeing this. 😊 I’d definitely like their input and thoughts, as well as everyone else’s, on the idea.

Chinese Invasion of the United States Set Around 2034– Similar to the concept above but instead, its China landing on American shores twelve years from now. This is another concept that has been examined now and then in works of fiction, as well on as alternative history websites. The novel Invasion by Eric L. Harry comes to mind first and foremost. This idea has a lot of potential, especially considering the direction of world events recently.

US-China Conflict in the Western Pacific, Near Future– This concept also has a lot of promise. Unfortunately, it might be off limits to me for the time being. With the future of the WWIII in 1987 novel remaining fluid, I’ve started work on Book #2 which is set on a US-China war in the near future. Still, depending on how things turn out, it is still a possibility.

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55 Replies to “The Future Beyond World War III 1987”

  1. Love the ideas, Mike! As much as I would LOVE any of the invasion scenarios, (because seriously, how many of us prayed that would happen when we were teenagers!)
    I think the Western Pacific War would be a solid bet, at least from my foxhole.

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    1. WestPac would definitely have a ‘modern day’ vibe to it and be very relevant. Appreciate the opinion from your foxhole. Good to see you’re still around. 🙂

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  2. What about what this one? What would have happened if Ike listened to Patton and Churchill and declared war on Stalin after Germany surrendered?

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    1. That’s one of my favorite ideas. Unfortunately, similar works have come out based on that premise in the last few years.

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        1. Check out the World In Flames series of books on Amazon. It covers a US-Soviet war in Europe shortly after the conclusion of WWII. The third book, Patton’s War is especially good.

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  3. Red Dawn would be perfect. Highlight battles the background to the cause and you have 750 million screaming Chinese Allie’s and a battered UK 🇬🇧 holding on to fear life .
    Argentina sides with the Soviets and the Latin communist bloc on its war .

    Naval Battles of the Atlantic and pacific coasts, armor batttles on the Kansas Oklahoma plains , amphibious invasion to retake LA o the fun

    And another option is it’s 1993 and President Ross Perot after being sworn in must make decisive action to thwart Saddam Hussein and his invasion of the gulf Region out of Kuwait . As his armed forces are upgraded by his seizure of Kuwait in 1991.
    The Soviet Union is still around as the coup of 91 stopped the fall of communism . And a revitalized Soviet Union is backing this invasion.

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    1. That 1993 idea is interesting. Bush loses in ’88 to Dukakis and Saddam isn’t stopped. Subsequently he takes over the whole region. That’s a good seed for a novella….or a wargame

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      1. war game idea is a good option…. Considering most of the forces in the region are par with each other, could make for an interesting series of games.

        I remember the geopolitcal thing a bunch of us nerds did in high school…. I was Iraq in that game and I took most of the gulf region. I also gassed the 82nd… I think I told you about that.

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        1. Dammit, this comment slipped past me over the weekend.
          Definitely an interesting series of games. And I remember you talking about gassing the 82nd. I would’ve done the same thing. Well played!

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          1. Regardless of who was in the White House in 91, what would have happened if Saddam had just kept on rolling south after he had taken Kuwait? Would the Iraqis have had the logistics to do it (perhaps supported by the Iranians with the promise of Qatar and Bahrain) or did the Saudis have the forces to stop them somewhere around Dharan? All on the premise that the US have no forces in theatre and it would take them weeks to get anything substantial together.

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            1. If they had come south, we had little that could stand in their way. I can’t even imagine the geopolitical ramifications of that. Saddam would’ve had Saudi Arabia and Kuwait under his control and a large amount of the world’s oil.

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  4. Wherever the journey goes, I am very excited! I came across the blog a few months ago and was captivated from the beginning.
    As a (young) German citizen, I am glad that this hypothetical conflict never took place. Nevertheless, it was very interesting to read what could have happened.

    Very curious to see what other scenarios you bring to life.

    Keep it up, Mike!

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    1. Thanks, Paul. I’m very glad you found this blog and that it’s held your interest for so long. Feedback from readers such as yourself…especially those living in Central Europe has been invaluable.

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  5. Well, a Chinese invasion of the US around 2034 has got to be better than a hypothetical war between the US and China set in 2034 written by two guys who should have done better, amirite?

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  6. The scenario from the old SPI game “Invasion America” might be worth exploring. That game posited a three way invasion from the Pacific coast, up through the Mexican Isthmus and a third attack along the Eastern seaboard or Gulf coast. That came from three different political groups The Eurasian Socialist Coalition, the Pan Asian League and the South American Union..

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    1. That was a good game. I like how it became the inspiration for Fortress America. I need to find a copy of the rules and read the scenario again. I only remember bits and pieces of it

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    1. Have you read Invasion by Eric Harry by chance? Very good novel about a Chinese invasion of the southern US. Herculean logistical efforts that 20 years ago seemed impossible. But now…..not so crazy

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  7. Not a vote necessarily (you should absolutely write whatever you want – I’ll be here no matter what), but…I’m someone who wrote on that thread (Red Dawn) and it was fascinating. Sadly, the thread itself ended up having contradictions both with the movie and with other posts (though I believe some dedicated folks wrote it up elsewhere and cleaned it up a lot), so having a “sole author” would vastly improve the story. That plus the scenario that is “in the movie” makes very little sense without a lot of hand waving, so having a better background to any such invasion would be fun to see. Nevermind that the “behind the lines” stuff would be fascinating to read.

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    1. It did seem that as time went on, there were a few major contradictions spawning. But nevertheless, it was and still is a fantastic Alternative History.
      I’d have to say that as of now, the Red Dawn-esque route is probably the favorite.

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  8. Not to harp on about it but regarding those economic and social impacts in the US post-war, are you going to post something about that?

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    1. Yep. There will be some extensive post war write ups and studies posted. As I said, the blog isn’t going anywhere. There’s still a lot to cover once the shooting stops

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  9. I love (1) Red Dawn or (3) US-China war. Eric Harry already addressed the invasion scenario well (love his nuclear war book also). In high school, I actually wrote a term paper on a hypothetical Soviet invasion of the US and I think my left-wing teachers gave me an A just so I wouldn’t spend days arguing with them about it.

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    1. They might’ve given you an A because they loved the idea of enlightened comrades from the Soviet Union liberating the oppressed masses of Yankee workers 🙂

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  10. China US invasion. I’ve thought about it a few times, but how do they make it out of the California coastal plain? Due east your into Death Valley, Nevada then smack up against the Rockies, stopped dead in January. Northern flank Washington Oregon Idaho Montana. Possible, but you smack into the Rockies and you’re really screwed in January. Southern Flank Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Texas probably the best bet, but US blows all the bridges over Arizona river no place to easily bridge. But 112 in the summer and cold and flooding in the winter. Would be interesting to see how they progress?
    But the real story is in the pre game. How did we screw up 100 yrs of US diplomacy, alliance and defense policy to be invaded in the first place

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    1. In Eric Harry’s book Invasion, the Chinese came in through the Gulf of Mexico. Built up in Cuba following a major defeat of US naval power which gave China uncontested control of the seas.
      If we looked at a major landing in California, Hawaii would have to be in their hands and the US Navy decisively beaten. Setting up the pre-game for a Chinese invasion of the US would be a lot of fun.

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            1. Right. Even worse, we’re producing the wrong types of ships in many cases. LCS, and an overabundance of amphibs. Meanwhile, our cruisers are in terrible shape and Constellation class frigates seem to be delayed. Meanwhile, China keeps punching out warships like hotcakes.

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              1. Even if we were producing the right kinds of ships I don’t think we could match the PLA’s build rate.

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              2. I agree. But if we were producing the right kinds of ships we wouldn’t have to worry about the PLAN’s build rate.
                Either way, we have a problem simmering over there

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      1. Cuba has always been that dagger aimed right at our gulf coast. Kind of explains why we freaked out so much when the Soviets put nukes on that island.

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      1. It always comes down to controlling a river, doesn’t it? 🙂 The Mississippi for sure. Look at the Vicksburg campaign during the Civil War

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        1. Yeah that river basin is still the heartland of our country. I still consider the Louisiana Purchase to be the greatest historical case of highway robbery.

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          1. I’ve heard it takes a hell of a long time to travel across it by train.
            Great state though. If you had four seasons I’d be living there now 🙂

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            1. Well most people choose to travel by car in our state. It would probably take a full day to go from one end of the state to the other.

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  11. I have loved this blog since I found it a year or so ago, and I will read whatever you write. That being said, I’d like to see something that deals with a near future conflict, the changes in technology and tactics aren’t as extreme as many observers think, IMO, but the example of the Karabakh War and Ukraine War make me interested to see how more powerful countries would approach the challenges on larger fronts. Also, I can’t wait for the novel to come out, you have at least one guaranteed customer here regardless of the geopolitical situation.

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    1. Thanks, DC. Much appreciated. I like the idea of a near future conflict. Especially now since technology is changing somewhat and major military powers are preparing for more conventional types of combat. Counter insurgency is in the past now

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    1. The manuscript for Book #2 is a US-China War. Work is underway now. As I just mentioned in the Novel Update post, it might end up being my first book released

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